I Never Learned to Read Chinese, and I Speak It Anyway

10 min read
  • method
  • input
  • listening
  • reading

By Spencer Patton

Someone left a long comment on one of my videos and buried the real question right at the end, almost like an afterthought.

Do you write in Chinese by hand? It must be really difficult.

So I answered it on camera, and the honest answer is a little embarrassing.

I can write two characters. One and two. That's the whole list. And when I drew them on camera I told everyone watching that I might have gotten them wrong, because I'd rather look silly than pretend.

Two and a half years into Mandarin. I can sit at a table with my wife's family and follow what's actually happening. I put on Chinese content because I want to, not because it's homework. And my handwriting tops out at the two simplest strokes in the language.

If you've been trying to work out how to get fluent quickly and you've been quietly dreading the reading part, that fact is either going to annoy you or take a weight off your chest. I'm hoping it's the second one, because there's a real mechanism underneath it, and once you see the mechanism the reading question mostly answers itself.

What I'm actually chasing is conversational fluency

Before any of this makes sense, I have to tell you what I'm aiming at, because it isn't what most courses aim at.

I care about conversational fluency, and I've taken my own definition of it. Three parts.

One, you can understand native speakers. Not at full speed, not at the highest difficulty. Just that what's coming at you is making sense to your brain at a range of levels.

Two, they can understand you. Not perfectly. I could say "yesterday I dog walk park" and you'd know exactly what I meant. That counts.

Three, you can consume content in the language. I throw that third one in because it's the engine that drives the other two.

Notice what isn't on that list. Reading a newspaper isn't on it. Writing characters by hand isn't on it. Passing an exam definitely isn't on it. Those are perfectly good goals if they're your goals. They're just not what I optimized for, and they're not what we build around at Fluency Formula either, because the people I work with aren't trying to earn a certificate. They're trying to get into a conversation that's currently happening without them.

Once that's the target, the reading question changes shape entirely.

Do you need to learn to read to speak a language

No. And people get this backwards in a very specific way.

They treat reading as a prerequisite. Learn the characters, learn the alphabet, learn the script, and then you're allowed to start understanding. It's the same instinct that makes people do grammar tables before they've ever heard the language spoken at normal speed. Get the theory in first, then go use it.

Reading isn't a prerequisite. It's downstream.

It sits below listening on the flow chart, and it arrives largely on its own once enough listening has happened. That's not a philosophical position I hold because it sounds nice. It's just what happened to me, and it's what I watch happen to other people constantly.

Here's the actual mechanism, in two stages, because the second stage is the one nobody tells you about.

At the start, what you see gives meaning to what you hear

Stage one is the part you've probably already heard me talk about.

I hold up my phone. I say 手机. Which, in Mandarin, means phone.

You have no idea what I just said. But you can see the thing in my hand. And if I keep holding it up and keep saying the word, in a hundred different situations, with a hundred different phones, at some point there is no translating step left. You just understand it. The word arrives with the meaning already attached.

That's comprehensible input, which just means content you can mostly follow because the pictures, the context, and the situation hand you the meaning of the words you don't know yet. You only need to understand about half, and your brain does the rest. Your eyes carry your ears. What you SEE is giving meaning to what you HEAR.

That's the whole engine at the beginning. Nothing written anywhere. No script, no characters, no spelling. Just a growing pile of sounds that mean things.

Do that for a long time and something builds up in your head that I like to call a robust model of the language. It isn't vocabulary in the flashcard sense. It's a working, running model of how the language behaves, what usually comes next, what a sentence is probably doing before it finishes doing it.

And then the interesting thing happens.

Then the arrow flips and reading teaches itself

Once that model is in there, turn on subtitles. In the target language, which is the part most people get backwards.

Now the direction reverses. You already understand the sentence. You've heard it, you've processed it, you know what it means. And there on the screen is a written version of the exact thing you just understood.

Your brain pairs what it's SEEING with what it already UNDERSTANDS.

That's it. That's reading, arriving through the back door, off the back of listening you were doing anyway. At the start, what you see gives meaning to what you hear. Later, what you hear gives meaning to what you see. Same trick, run in the opposite direction.

And I'm not the only one who noticed. The second comment I answered in that video was from a guy about 260 hours into input, mostly watching and listening. He said he's started understanding way better when he also sees the words on screen, and he was surprised by it, because he never studied reading. He didn't know that just happens from input.

It does. That's the flip, showing up in the wild, in somebody else's head, on a method he didn't plan.

The two channels start propping each other up. Sometimes you recognize a character and its meaning, and that helps you catch the spoken version. Sometimes it goes the other way. They pull each other along.

Is it slower than just sitting down and drilling reading from day one? If reading is your actual goal, yes, obviously. If you want to read novels in six months, go read. I'm not going to pretend otherwise.

But it was never my first goal. And I'll say this: pairing subtitles with a show I'm genuinely into is far more fun than staring at a page that doesn't do anything back. One of those I'll do for years. The other one I'd quit in a month, and so would you, and neither of us would call it a discipline problem.

The thousand-sentence trap forgets the other half of the conversation

That same commenter was frustrated about something else, and it's related.

He follows someone learning Korean who handwrites vocabulary to remember it, and someone else who's memorized a stack of phrases and is heading to Korea to use them. His line about it was the best line in the whole comment: a language is alive in the mouths of native speakers.

So let me be careful here, because I don't think memorizing sentences is useless. It has a use. Learn a thousand sentences and you will have a thousand sentences.

The problem is what it forgets.

The other half of every conversation is spontaneity. You do not know what the person across from you is about to say. You can't. And the moment they say it, you either understand it or you don't, and no amount of rehearsal on your side of the table changes that.

So picture how it actually goes. You've drilled your sentences. You're ready. They open their mouth, and what comes out isn't anything you rehearsed, because why would it be. Now you're not having a conversation. You're grasping for the closest thing on your list, hoping it's in the neighborhood.

At best, you deploy the wrong rehearsed sentence at the right moment. That's the ceiling of that approach, and it's a low one.

If you're putting all your time into a thousand sentences and no time into actual comprehensible input, then what exactly is going to let you understand the reply?

Anyone who can pull it off got there through listening anyway

Here's the part that closes the loop on this.

The chance that you can pull a memorized sentence out of a hat and land it accurately with a native speaker is genuinely low. But it's not zero. Some people can absolutely do it.

Ask how they got there.

If someone can deploy the right sentence at the right moment, it's almost certainly because they've spent serious time listening. That's what gave them the sense of when to say it, what register it belongs in, and what the person just said to trigger it. The listening is what made the sentences usable. The sentences didn't make themselves usable.

Which means even the win case for that method is quietly running on the thing the method skipped.

Same shape as reading. Same answer. It comes from understanding, and understanding comes from volume.

Time spent with the language is never wasted

Now let me be genuinely fair to the person handwriting Korean vocabulary, because I don't want this read as me swinging at her.

If you're spending time with the language, that's a good thing. Full stop. I say that a lot and I mean it.

There are more effective and less effective ways to spend an hour, and I'll argue about that all day. But an hour spent with the language is not an hour wasted, even on the less effective end, because of what it does to you rather than what it does to your brain.

It stokes the fire. It keeps you excited. It keeps you a little more in love with the thing, which is what gets you to come back tomorrow, and the day after, and it quietly funnels you toward more of the stuff that will actually move you.

That matters enormously if the honest thing you're scared of is quitting again. The people who get there aren't the ones who found the theoretically optimal hour. They're the ones who kept showing up long enough for the volume to do its job, which is also why there are no language people.

So no, I'm not telling you handwriting is useless. I'm telling you it's not the road to speaking, and if speaking is what you want, don't let it eat the hours that were supposed to go to listening.

If I had four hours a day

Somebody else in that same batch of comments asked how he'd spend four hours a day, which is a great question, so quickly.

If you're brand new, I'd put the majority of that time into grinding the first 600 to 1,000 high frequency words in the language. Search Google for a frequency list rather than having a chatbot generate one, because the chatbot will happily invent words and a real list won't. Those words are an enormous return on investment, and once you have them you're primed for immersion instead of drowning in it.

Then it's immersion, and immersion has mini games inside it. Balance novelty against repetition. New stuff keeps your brain interested, and there's a fun little challenge in putting on something new and asking whether you'll follow it today. But repetition matters just as much, so I make YouTube playlists named after the month. Right now there's one called September. Come December I'll go back and watch September again, partly for guaranteed repetition and partly because a time locked playlist is the cleanest progress check there is. You find out exactly how far you've moved.

Nowhere in any of that did I schedule reading. It shows up on its own.

Read later, listen now

So let's land it.

I never learned to read or write Chinese, and I got to conversational fluency anyway, because reading was never the gate. It's the thing that falls out the other side once your ears have done enough work.

Understanding comes first. Everything else, reading included, is your brain attaching a new channel to a model it already built. That is the same engine running underneath the whole method, start to finish. That's why I refuse to put the script at the front of the process, and it's most of the honest answer to getting fluent quickly in a language with a writing system that scares people off before they ever hear it spoken.

And if you've tried this before, more than once, and it died somewhere in the middle, I don't think the problem was you. I think you were handed a starting line that was pointed at the wrong thing, and it cost you months before you could feel it wasn't working.

If you want the full version, including the two other comments I answered, watch it on YouTube: Why I Never Learned to Read or Write in Chinese.

And if you want the whole route pointed at understanding people rather than decoding pages, Fluency Formula is where that system lives.


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